OMG!!! HE LOOKS SO UNCOMFORTABLE!!! HOW COULD YOU DO THAT TO HIM???!!!!!!

PMSL, looks like he's enjoying the different view to be honest

Awwww come on KA - you should be able to tell us what they are thinking...! Is Genie saying "OMG I am being tortured" or something else...?

well I've been tempted to ask a few but who's gonna believe me if they say it's not a problem LOL

Kerry, you want me to ask him?

LOL KA - you can ask him. He'll just tell you everything is hard work. Old fart will do anything to get out of work!

This one is also an interesting page off the same site
http://www.sustainabledressage.com/collection/false_collection.php#eye

interesting site Lumiere, have heard it mentioned before but it's the first time I've ventured there, she(?) certainly researches things quite thoroughly... thank you

Just watched someone after my lesson and having been looking at all these diagrams of heads and necks it was interesting to see the horse come UP to the correct position only to evade that again by popping back down an inch and lowering the poll and then of course had the 3rd vert. as the highest point. To me I always thought that was the simplest way of showing an evasion, never thought everyone goes "ROLLKUR!" when they see it LOL

My wee nutter does it to evade at a canter, I am getting him out of the habbit, but can be very hard to do, and he is still moving his back end properly as well ... Have no idea where the habbit came from either....=0(

Was just reading in the Horse and Hound that this rider and clip was the first thing discussed at the global dressage forum and that he is now under investigation.

I'm guessing you mean Patrik and the blue tongue incident... and yes so he should be! Particularly if what the clip says is right and he went on riding in that manner for the next 90 minutes!

I'm sure most that train in the rollkur system would say the same thing!

which begs the question if you consider it to be an evasion why would you deliberately train the horse to evade... thats just weird